Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/topic/2616/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Wed, 02 May 2007 20:12:21 GMT Tue, 06 May 2008 19:56:52 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/topic/2616/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/49292/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-49292 feeds@yuku.com (nocaster) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/49292 Tue, 06 May 2008 19:56:52 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/49287/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-49287 feeds@yuku.com (Russell) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/49287 Tue, 06 May 2008 00:56:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/49269/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-49269 feeds@yuku.com (Boris Bubbanov) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/49269 Sat, 03 May 2008 06:55:20 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9918/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9918 feeds@yuku.com (Dale W Johnson) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9918 Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:29:32 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9917/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9917
Well, the important thing is not the mass of the parts, but their resilience. An analogy that comes to mind is the DC resistance of pickups, which doesn't tell much about the tone transfer characteristics. Similarly, mass alone isn't the important factor -... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (PeteMK1) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9917 Thu, 10 May 2007 11:28:45 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9916/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9916
What I do know is that it's not by chance that mahogany and swamp ash are popular for solid body instruments. They are default choices for their "magical"/dynamic qualities.

> "I think a lot of the Strat and LP frequency response is in the neck... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (nocaster) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9916 Thu, 10 May 2007 04:26:13 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9915/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9915
Resonance in solidbody instruments actually has a subtractive effect on string energy unless that energy is fed back into the strings. Thankfully, there is feedback most of the time with woods like mahogany. This gives a singing quality to the notes but compresses the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (bfurman) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9915 Thu, 10 May 2007 04:09:10 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9914/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9914 > "Neck - kept the same woods (maple/pau ferro), but went with 25" scale instead of standard 25.5"."

Effect: slightly darker, slightly less snap, slightly less tension. (A little more Gibsonesque.)

> 'Also went slightly thicker at .87" instead of .85".'

> "Changed headstock from US-1... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (nocaster) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9914 Thu, 10 May 2007 02:26:42 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9913/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9913 > "The long and narrow shape of the neck leads to significant vibration, which in turn alters the tone that's transmitted by the pickups. And, it is also well-known that changing from a skinny neck to a thicker one can dramatically change (and often improve) the sound of a guitar."

Surely then, the thicker neck reduces the vibration, and the greater wood mass increases the depth of the tone? To my way of thinking,... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (nocaster) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9913 Thu, 10 May 2007 01:50:11 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9912/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9912
I'm planning a Jazzymaster build myself, so I'm always interested in pics and tone reports. If I only could find more time for such projects...
Let the thunder roll and the lightning flash, I'm doing alright for country trash.
]]> feeds@yuku.com (PeteMK1) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9912 Wed, 09 May 2007 18:54:48 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9911/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9911
Nocaster, your reference to approaching Gibsonesk territory rang true with me and scared me a bit. So I went with the pau ferro board instead of rosewood - I would be seriously depressed if I ended up with a les paul sound after all the work required to finish and assemble one of these things (not the mention the G invested).

To summarize here is a comparison between my current guitar (silver Jazzmaster) and the one I'm going to build (white... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (kidmag) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9911 Wed, 09 May 2007 18:05:34 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9910/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9910
Well, that's exactly the question, how much of the tone actually is governed by it.

The top woods and the other factors definitely play a role, and I'm also able to hear some differences, but I have the impression that the neck is often a bit misunderestimated. feeds@yuku.com (PeteMK1) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9910 Wed, 09 May 2007 15:35:18 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9909/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9909
BUT, maybe I can leave you with something for consideration, without getting into the science and why I think we're talking at cross purposes?

If the body wood plays such a relatively minor role, then why is so much of a guitar's tone governed by the wood, size and shape of the guitar's body? Why does the number of pieces matter? Why does a top wood alter... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (nocaster) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9909 Wed, 09 May 2007 01:08:38 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9908/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9908
My overall thinking is similar to Pete's. I might add that guitar strings communicating through a tremolo only interact with body resonance in the most indirect way....

-Ben ]]> feeds@yuku.com (bfurman) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9908 Tue, 08 May 2007 03:29:57 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9907/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9907 feeds@yuku.com (kidmag) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9907 Mon, 07 May 2007 16:16:09 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9906/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9906
I don't want to judge right or wrong regarding this question, nor do I intend to start a big discussion on it, but I'd like to give some reasons for my above statement and explain the type of measurements I've seen. The weighting of this information is then up to the reader.

The starting point is the fact that the vibrational characteristics of a guitar determine the... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (PeteMK1) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9906 Mon, 07 May 2007 11:19:33 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9905/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9905
Without totally reformulating the body and neck woods combinations, I'd suggest retaining that same neck formula, and for the body, substituting mahogany for the alder.
feeds@yuku.com (nocaster) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9905 Sun, 06 May 2007 05:44:52 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9904/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9904 Let the thunder roll and the lightning flash, I'm doing alright for country trash.
]]> feeds@yuku.com (PeteMK1) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9904 Thu, 03 May 2007 08:22:26 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9903/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9903
Anectodal experience: swamp ash makes a surprisingly nice combination with a mahogany neck. Very articulate, but darker than a Strat.

-Ben ]]> feeds@yuku.com (bfurman) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9903 Thu, 03 May 2007 04:42:38 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/reply/9902/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html#reply-9902
I believe that the far larger chunk of body wood makes a larger difference.

Consider a mahogany body, or maybe even black limba/korina (if you want a transparent finish). ]]> feeds@yuku.com (wyattoons) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/sreply/9902 Thu, 03 May 2007 00:01:40 GMT <![CDATA[ Tone primarily dictated by neck or body wood? ]]> http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/topic/2616/t/Tone-primarily-dictated-by-neck-or-body-wood-.html
My current... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (kidmag) http://guitarsbyfender.yuku.com/topic/2616 Wed, 02 May 2007 20:12:21 GMT