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nocaster		#21	[url]	[-]
Posts: 18487 Fri, May 23, 2008 14:43:32 The Big FIBer	> "Pickups: I will definitely have a look at the Keystone singles. I tried doing some research earlier today but found it quite hard to get any official information. Since the Bill Lawrence website is under heavy construction, the FIB Wilde-Gate seems to be the best place to find anything...right? Guess I'll read through a bunch of threads again, all the different pickup names were a bit confusing today." Just search for Keystone. The confusing model numbers are for the Wilde noiseless singles and humbuckers. As far as Keystone singles, as far as I know, there is only one Strat model set and one Tele model set. And I think the Strat set is available in white or black...not sure about cream. i feel the weight of the world on my shoulder; as i'm gettin older ya'll people gets colder most of us only care about money-makin; selfishness got us followin the wrong direction wrong information always shown by the media; negative images is the main criteria infecting the [people's] minds faster than bacteria; [peeps] wanna act like what they see in the cinema
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Mowcheeba		#22	[url]	[-]
Posts: 12 Fri, May 23, 2008 18:50:42	nocaster wrote: A great guitar will not resurrect an average amp, but a great amp can resurrect an average guitar. +1..........I have a great USACG T-style guitar with great pickups and it doesn't sound much better than a 200 USD Squier trough my crappy practice amp.
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Mowcheeba		#23	[url]	[-]
Posts: 13 Fri, May 23, 2008 18:54:05	nocaster wrote: Mowcheeba wrote: mathis wrote: However if you really wanna get close to Mayer sound I got a "inside" tip and the readings on his pickups are: Neck 6.1 K Middle 6.4 K Bridge 7.4 K Oh, where did you get that info? I looked at the values of the other Fralin pickups and it seems like the Blues Specials are quite close (6.2, 6.2, 7.2) to the ones you described. Don't really understand how those values would make for scooped mids though. AFAIK the more windings the more mids and less highs you get. That info was posted on another forum by Don Mare, popular "boutique" winder. It really matters not who originates such bs; it remains bs. It could be BS but it could also be the truth. People do know JM and the builders/technicians that does work on his guitars. He is not a God, just human.
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Mowcheeba		#24	[url]	[-]
Posts: 14 Fri, May 23, 2008 19:00:24	nocaster wrote: Mowcheeba: Although I have herein addressed some of your comments at some length, I in no way intend to single you out, as my responses are not meant to be personal. You have made several valuable contributions and I hope you continue to do so! Maybe I should have followed my own rules and/or advice and stayed out of or closed down potentially touchy discussions on pickups, as my bad experiences in the past maybe tend to touch a raw nerve and prompt me to get on my high horse. My apologies for any unintended offence I may have caused! At first I felt jumped on but I understand what you are trying to say and I don't feel offended, no need for apologies.
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mathis		#25	[url]	[-]
Posts: 8 Fri, May 23, 2008 19:29:52	nocaster wrote: As far as Keystone singles, as far as I know, there is only one Strat model set and one Tele model set. And I think the Strat set is available in white or black...not sure about cream. From what I could gather so far, Bill and Becky don't sell them personally but sell them through somebody on eBay. Since the KeyStones don't seem to have staggered poles, does that mean that they can be used in both lefthand and righthand guitars? Or is there some other reason for lefthand pickups? I won't be able to change the pickup cover on the KeyStones later, right?
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nocaster		#26	[url]	[-]
Posts: 18491 Sat, May 24, 2008 00:14:03 The Big FIBer	...All correct. They are sold via a single US long-time associate at this time, who primarily sells on eBay. The pickups are not designed with cover changes in mind. They are epoxy sealed as part of maintaining the integrity of the pups, no squeal and low-noise. I believe the Keystones are also no different to Bill's premium noiseless line in respect of having the added advantage of low string-pull. i feel the weight of the world on my shoulder; as i'm gettin older ya'll people gets colder most of us only care about money-makin; selfishness got us followin the wrong direction wrong information always shown by the media; negative images is the main criteria infecting the [people's] minds faster than bacteria; [peeps] wanna act like what they see in the cinema
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nocaster		#27	[url]	[-]
Posts: 18492 Sat, May 24, 2008 00:29:59 The Big FIBer	With flat pole pups there is no need to consider left-hand staggers. Plenty of lefties using Bill's pups. They are also better suited to 9.5"+ radii than vintage-staggered pups, although I am not aware of any problems with the Keystones installed in guitars with vintage radius fingerboards either. Bill tends to somehow accommodate all common installation scenarios in a single design. As you can see, the shipping costs to the UK are also very reasonable. HTH. i feel the weight of the world on my shoulder; as i'm gettin older ya'll people gets colder most of us only care about money-makin; selfishness got us followin the wrong direction wrong information always shown by the media; negative images is the main criteria infecting the [people's] minds faster than bacteria; [peeps] wanna act like what they see in the cinema Last Edited By: nocaster Sat, May 24, 2008 00:41:59. Edited 1 time.
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mathis		#28	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9 Sat, May 24, 2008 10:25:00	This helps a lot, thanks nocaster! Well that settles it - no more reason to go for the Fralin pickups. I might wait until some KeyStones with cream covers appear on eBay or write Bruce whether he could put a set online. White covers will probably stick out too much on a parchment or mint green pickguard. Yeay! And with the money I save on the pickups I can almost get a new amp...
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nocaster		#29	[url]	[-]
Posts: 18500 Sat, May 24, 2008 11:10:17 The Big FIBer	Yes, please ask Bruce. I also suggest you request a pic, because when talking of cream, there's the possibility of off-white, which I assume is what you're really after, and deep cream. The cream BL pups I've seen in the past have been the latter. i feel the weight of the world on my shoulder; as i'm gettin older ya'll people gets colder most of us only care about money-makin; selfishness got us followin the wrong direction wrong information always shown by the media; negative images is the main criteria infecting the [people's] minds faster than bacteria; [peeps] wanna act like what they see in the cinema Last Edited By: nocaster Sat, May 24, 2008 11:27:20. Edited 1 time.
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nocaster		#30	[url]	[-]
Posts: 18501 Sat, May 24, 2008 11:22:22 The Big FIBer	I've let Bruce know about this thread, hoping that he might have time to clarify your options, if any, here. i feel the weight of the world on my shoulder; as i'm gettin older ya'll people gets colder most of us only care about money-makin; selfishness got us followin the wrong direction wrong information always shown by the media; negative images is the main criteria infecting the [people's] minds faster than bacteria; [peeps] wanna act like what they see in the cinema
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mathis		#31	[url]	[-]
Posts: 10 Sat, May 24, 2008 11:40:44	Thanks again! Yes I'm after off-white.
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editorjuno		#32	[url]	[-]
Posts: 196 Sat, May 24, 2008 21:40:15 FIB Torero Humilde	Just do what nocaster did -- write me at any of three e-mail addresses (editor@juno.com, bruce@keystonepickups.com, or keystonepickups@gmail.com) and I'll be happy to help out! bcnu -- Bruce Morgen Keystone Pickups by Bill Lawrence®
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mathis		#33	[url]	[-]
Posts: 11 Thu, May 29, 2008 17:59:47	Okay, I did. Hope you got it.
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