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hopdybob	tele three way switch VS 2 mini switches		Lead	[-]
Posts: 538 Thu, May 21, 2009 07:52:28 Bronze Member	Tags : None bought a korina tele body that i want to use for the keystone tele deluxe set and i am wondering if there will be a difference if i would use 2 mini toggle on/off switches in stead of the normal three way switch? i personally think it will have the same effect on sound, but maybe i am wrong. i also have a left over five way switch, is there a diagram that would offer some usefull extra's?
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fuzzy beard		#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1850 Thu, May 21, 2009 08:47:26 Contrib. Gold Charter Member Wilde Tech	Last Edited By: fuzzy beard Thu, May 21, 2009 09:02:29. Edited 1 time.
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hopdybob		#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 539 Thu, May 21, 2009 13:01:54 Bronze Member	thank you fuzzy, have you ever tried this one out?
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fuzzy beard		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1851 Thu, May 21, 2009 17:19:34 Contrib. Gold Charter Member Wilde Tech	My tele used to be wired like this, and it's a great setup. The added position #4 is particularly good sounding with nice "quack". Regarding the mini-switches and the 3 way, you will not gain anything by using two mini-switches with the Keystones. Actually, the 3-way is much more convenient. -hth
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Narcoleptigon		#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 24 Thu, May 21, 2009 21:01:54	Unless you use 3 way mini toggles. That 1/2 phase option looks like a great idea. Another would be to have an out of phase/series option a' la Brian May. Although, I think he runs one pup set parallel/out of phase in series with another pup. A series option to the above wiring might give a really sweet lead sound. I think you would just need to add one more switch to do it. Not sure how.
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Boris Bubbanov		#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 159 Thu, May 21, 2009 22:12:20	I'm using the Bill Lawrence 5 way setup with the "half pregnant" position #4 and it sounds very good. I think the value on the little cap alongside the 5 way switch is a little too much, but I went down to .001 mf and that's too little. Plus the Radio shack tiny green film cap (fits so nice) appears to be crapping out; I'm getting intermittent failure from it. Sounds great but I've got some kind of fault in there. I'm probably shorting to ground actually, but I was so proud of the cloth I stuck on there. Oh, I'm using non deluxe Keystones. I like the all exposed pole piece sound a lot. Last Edited By: Boris Bubbanov Thu, May 21, 2009 22:15:41. Edited 1 time.
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lgbclp		#6	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1281 Fri, May 22, 2009 01:19:03 Contributing Palladium Member	Boris Bubbanov wrote: Oh, I'm using non deluxe Keystones. I like the all exposed pole piece sound a lot. I thought Bill's covers didn't affect tone? Here's another interesting option to consider. It's what I'm using on my Tele. I'm using two three-ways with a Q-Filter, but you could do a few different things with the second three-way. Thanks as usual to moggl for doing the diagram a while back. --Garrett--
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Posts: 1852 Fri, May 22, 2009 17:51:01 Contrib. Gold Charter Member Wilde Tech	With a DPTT mini switch (on-on-on) and a mini on-on switch (or on-off) you could hook up neck and bridge pickups in series in addition to the stock tele positions. Mid position is of phase with series connection engaged. By the way: Moggls diagrams are soo clean !!
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hopdybob		#8	[url]	[-]
Posts: 540 Sat, May 23, 2009 07:40:05 Bronze Member	thank you all four your input. i think i go for the lawrence wiring concerning the diagram from moggle is see the placing of the q filter as a strange position but maybe i am wrong
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lgbclp		#9	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1282 Sat, May 23, 2009 09:00:09 Contributing Palladium Member	hopdybob wrote: concerning the diagram from moggle is see the placing of the q filter as a strange position but maybe i am wrong It's just grounded to the Volume pot instead of the Tone. You could just as easily ground it and the cap to the back of the Tone pot. For a Tele control cavity, it works nicely to shove the Q-Filter underneath the Volume pot to make way for the output jack. --Garrett--
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Boris Bubbanov		#10	[url]	[-]
Posts: 162 Wed, May 27, 2009 04:52:41	lgbclp wrote: Boris Bubbanov wrote: Oh, I'm using non deluxe Keystones. I like the all exposed pole piece sound a lot. I thought Bill's covers didn't affect tone? You got me. I have 1 set of Keystones with the Deluxe chrome look cover, that I haven't installed in anything yet - so all I can say is I like what I have heard in the dozen or so sets of exposed pole piece Keystones. Alder, ash, maple cap mahogany, walnut, maple cap alder; I'm definitely a happy customer. :^) One of the aesthetic things about the exposed pole piece version is, you can use a Blackguard type pickguard and as long as you don't insist on adjusting the neck pickup real high when you body mount it, the neck pickup is somewhat invisable under low light conditions and allows the guitar to pass for an Esquire. I've wondered if daubing some shellac mixed with carbon black or India Ink on the Keystone neck pickup pole pieces could help complete the deception. This IMO makes way more sense than trying to entomb a neck pickup under the pickguard where it has no chance on Earth of working right. I've tried is effect on my T bodies with the deepest neck pockets to reduce as much as possible the extent to which the neck pickup must be way proud of the plane of the pickguard. If you think the shellac will ruin the pups, plees just let me have it. :^) Much obliged. Last Edited By: Boris Bubbanov Wed, May 27, 2009 05:05:08. Edited 3 times.
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