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 nocaster |
Re: L-500s: options and characteristics | #21 | ||
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Posts: 19369 Mon, Dec 1, 2003 01:27:37 The Big FIBer |
You either need to make a custom pickguard, or mount them to the mounting rings over of the pickguard. Or, buy L-450s instead.
Aide toi et le ciel taidera (Aid thyself and heaven will aid thee) |
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Stratluvr |
Re: L-500s: options and characteristics | #22 | ||
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Posts: 8 Mon, Dec 1, 2003 09:36:55 |
Thanks for the reply, nocaster. I'll look into the L-450's.
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Stratmaker |
L-500 pups | #23 | ||
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Posts: 6 Wed, Jan 14, 2004 01:51:54 |
I'm using a L-500XL and a L-500 rhythm in a maple bodied Strat with 500k pots and it has some of the finest tone of any guitar I've built. My hat's off to Bill & Becky for the product they make available and at such a reasonable price too. You've made a convert out of me!! Now I must try some of your single coils in an upcoming build.
Now when I went to install the L-500's in a double fat pickguard I had to open the rout up a tad since the ring around the coils is a bit wider than a standard humbucker rout - not a big deal 3 minutes and they slid right in. Do you think an EQ would enhance the performance of these awesome pickups? |
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nocaster |
Re: L-500 pups | #24 | ||
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Posts: 19369 Fri, Jan 16, 2004 09:19:45 The Big FIBer |
The sticky threads are only open to allow clarification of the detail specs provided herein.
Please start a new thread for any other purpose. Thanks. Aide toi et le ciel taidera (Aid thyself and heaven will aid thee) |
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Butterdime |
L-500XL | #25 | ||
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Posts: 5 Thu, Jan 29, 2004 10:24:52 |
is this a L-500XL?..i noticed the blades are smaller than the one on the Lawrence website..
www.aampselectricguitarst...0xl_md.jpg |
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nocaster |
Re: L-500XL | #26 | ||
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Posts: 19369 Thu, Jan 29, 2004 12:49:03 The Big FIBer |
The sticky threads are only open to allow clarification of the detail specs provided herein.
Please start a new thread for any other purpose. Thanks. Aide toi et le ciel taidera (Aid thyself and heaven will aid thee) |
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nocaster |
Re: L-500XL | #27 | ||
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Posts: 19369 Thu, Jan 29, 2004 13:16:25 The Big FIBer |
> "is this a L-500XL?..i noticed the blades are smaller than the one on the Lawrence website.."
This is a rip-off! NB. You can only buy genuine new Bill Lawrence pickups direct from Bill himself! It's that simple! Aide toi et le ciel taidera (Aid thyself and heaven will aid thee) |
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Butterdime |
L-500XL options | #28 | ||
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Posts: 5 Fri, Jan 30, 2004 06:11:49 |
but does the L-500XL come in the smaller blade version?
..i feel that the smaller blade has slightly less output than the wider version and it sounds more like a gibson pick-up.. i am currently using a SH-13 and i really dislike the extreemly high output of the pick-up...i'd rather have something that has a output thats closer to a SH-12..a more medium output bridge pick-up.. |
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nocaster |
Re: L-500XL options | #29 | ||
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Posts: 19369 Fri, Jan 30, 2004 06:23:54 The Big FIBer |
> "but does the L-500XL come in the smaller blade version?"
Only the rip-offs have the cheap and inferior, thin blades. > "i feel that the smaller blade has slightly less output than the wider version and it sounds more like a gibson pick-up" L-500's are not intended to sound like any Gibson pups. The thin-blade rip-offs are simply inferior quality. Aide toi et le ciel taidera (Aid thyself and heaven will aid thee) |
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Butterdime |
l-500xl | #30 | ||
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Posts: 5 Fri, Jan 30, 2004 11:19:16 |
wow inferior blades huh? thanks a lot man..
 do you know what is the D.C. Resistance and the Resonant Peak of the L-500XL and the L-500L? |
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nocaster |
Re: l-500xl | #31 | ||
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Posts: 19369 Fri, Jan 30, 2004 11:35:27 The Big FIBer |
DC resistance is pretty meaningless, and can get you into trouble when mixing models of the same brand, let alone mixing across brands.
Aide toi et le ciel taidera (Aid thyself and heaven will aid thee) |
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Butterdime |
L-500XL | #32 | ||
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Posts: 5 Fri, Jan 30, 2004 11:36:29 |
wow...i got the thin blade L-500XL came stocked with my Washburn Dime3RB...so this means that Washbur nactually purchased the pick-ups from the other maunufacturer huh?...i also bought a Washburn Dime 3DS and it came with a L-500XL with fatter blades..BUT..it sounded really bad...there was all this noise..so i changed it to the SH-13..haha and now i wanna change it back again
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Butterdime |
L-500L | #33 | ||
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Posts: 5 Fri, Jan 30, 2004 11:39:15 |
so what should i ask when i want to know the output of a pick-up?..and what is the output of the L-500XL and L-500L?
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nocaster |
Re: L-500XL | #34 | ||
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Posts: 19369 Fri, Jan 30, 2004 11:44:13 The Big FIBer |
At some stage Washburn decided to cut costs and buy the rip-offs.
> i also bought a Washburn Dime 3DS and it came with a L-500XL with fatter blades..BUT..it sounded really bad...there was all this noise.. When properly installed, all of Bills pups are noiseless, which is not the case for the rip-offs. Anyway, as Ive previously stated four times in this thread, these sticky threads are not discussion threads. Aide toi et le ciel taidera (Aid thyself and heaven will aid thee) |
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nocaster |
Re: L-500XL | #35 | ||
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Posts: 19369 Fri, Jan 30, 2004 11:52:43 The Big FIBer |
> "so what should i ask when i want to know the output of a pick-up?..and what is the output of the L-500XL and L-500L?"
The outputs, in Henries, of all the L-500's are clearly stated in the very first post of this thread! "The L-500 comes in four versions: C = 2.8 Henry R = 4.8 Henry L = 6.8 Henry XL = 9.2 Henry" However, when mixing and matching with other pups, one must consider things like perceived output, tonal balance, and setup (distance from the strings) factors. Aide toi et le ciel taidera (Aid thyself and heaven will aid thee) |
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nocaster |
Alnico V L-500's | #36 | ||
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Posts: 19369 Sat, Aug 6, 2005 02:47:06 The Big FIBer |
FYI: The new alnico V L-500's are not quite as hum-resistant as the previous ceramic ones.
Aide toi et le ciel taidera (Aid thyself and heaven will aid thee) |
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devastone |
Re: Alnico V L-500's | #37 | ||
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Posts: 13 Thu, May 11, 2006 21:01:21 |
Quote: Saying that Inductance (Henries) is a measure of "output" is as wrong as saying that DC Resistance is a measure of output. I understand the question, the problem is that butterdime has no point of reference, all that anyone says is that they have alot of output(?). I'm thinking of putting a L500 in the bridge of a Fender with Fender single coils in the neck and middle, so, the XL will probably be "too hot", the L may be "too hot", but will the R give me enough drive? Will the R be too bright? I currently have a 500K volume pot and the tone controls aren't wired, should I go to a 250K pot? These are the kinds of questions that seem to be hard to get answers to here so that we (meaning the general public) can compare Bill's pickups to the rest of the world (whether they are right or wrong). Bill's pickups are great, haven't used them in a while though, my HM Strat currently has the stock DiMarzio Super 3 in it which is a little too dark sounding for me and considerably overpowers the singles. I'm looking for a happy medium, so I understand Butterdime's question. I'm also a fan on Nuno's, so maybe I should just go with the L? Would the R sound the same but with different output? According to the Pickupology page it will be brighter because of it's smaller inductance. Does is have less output? Sorry, it's just a little confusing because of no point of reference. |
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nocaster |
Re: Alnico V L-500's | #38 | ||
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Posts: 19369 Fri, May 12, 2006 04:38:05 The Big FIBer |
Firstly, this is not a discussion thread! Please start a thread in-forum, and I can assure you there are ready answers to your common questions. Secondly, the problem of inter-brand comparisons is not of Bill's making; it is of the making of those that think DC resistance is a valid means of comparison, which it is not.
Aide toi et le ciel taidera (Aid thyself and heaven will aid thee) |
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marsnallhans |
Re: L-500s: options and characteristics | #39 | ||
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Posts: 3 Wed, Mar 21, 2007 17:23:41 |
I want to know what size load should accompany the different pickups. I know you say 500k pots should be used for the XL, but is that on a strat bridge where no tone pot is connected (total load 500k), or is that on a les paul,where a tone pot is connected (total load 250k)? should the total load be 125k or 250k for a 500l? If someone could clear this up that would be great.
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gatguy |
Re: L-500s: options and characteristics | #40 | ||
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Posts: 461 Wed, Mar 21, 2007 21:55:16 Contributing Silver Member |
Hi and welcome to the forum!
There are no rules regarding resistive loads - only suggestions, which are based on subjective appraisals. I have the L500R/XL combination with a 250K total resistive load (2x500K pots). With my particular guitar and amp setup, I found the pups sounded just slightly too bright for my liking. So I soldered a cap and resistor parallel to the pups to get the tone I want. Some people are into this sort of tweaking (e.g. changing pots, using caps/resistors) to fine tune their tone. It comes down to how picky you are and what you want your gat to sound like. I assume that the suggestion of 500K pots for the XL is for when the pup is wired to 2 pots. You could use that as a starting point (like I did), but if you are very discerning, you may want to fine tune your circuit after familiarising yourself with the sound of the L500s in the context of your setup and your guitar playing needs. I hope that's helpful. |
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